Post the *.SCH and *.BRD files that this screen shot shows.TheDirty:
but the one on the right… the pin should be connected to that pad. They are both on the same layer and there is obviously nothing between them. No matter how many times I select autoroute it will not connect that up. Is there something in the setting that could effect this?
I suspect there is something else to your story.
I don't think I'm alone when I say your subtle condescension and sometimes not so subtle is exceedingly annoying.bigglez:
Post the *.SCH and *.BRD files that this screen shot shows.I suspect there is something else to your story.
Yes, I suspect there is something going on as well, which is why I’m asking for possible reasons for this. I don’t have the board as I routed it in the picture above, so I just cleared the board again and am doing a reroute with a 1 mil grid. The grid I used on the one above was a 5 mil grid.
It’s already routed the above area around the pad differently and it’s definitely cut the pad off this time from the pin. Anyway, I’ll let it run through a few times to see how far it gets on everything. If there’s some blatant left over routes I’ll upload the brd and sch with the routing that it managed.
Mark, yes, it can be annoying but get over it. Think of it as the cost of free advice.
Really?TheDirty:
I don't think I'm alone when I say your subtle condescension and sometimes not so subtle is exceedingly annoying.bigglez:
Post the *.SCH and *.BRD files that this screen shot shows.I suspect there is something else to your story.
It’s not condescension. It doesn’t have to be subtle.
If one phoned a mechanic and said "my vehicle
makes a noise when I turn it on", the obvious answer
from the mechanic is going to be "bring it over and
we’ll take a look".
I don’t think the mechanic is going to say "send me
a still PIX of your vehicle". Or, post it on a forum.
Sorry, but giving advice is not a free pass for rudeness. Generally I do ignore it, but I'm thinking he doesn't even know he does it, despite the posts I've seen on here criticizing him for it. Really, it bothers me enough to mention it, but it's not like I'm crying inside or anything.Philba:
Mark, yes, it can be annoying but get over it. Think of it as the cost of free advice.
bigglez:
Really?It’s not condescension. It doesn’t have to be subtle.
If one phoned a mechanic and said "my vehicle
makes a noise when I turn it on", the obvious answer
from the mechanic is going to be "bring it over and
we’ll take a look".
I don’t think the mechanic is going to say "send me
a still PIX of your vehicle". Or, post it on a forum.
I’ve worked with a lot of old hardcore programmers that seem to be like this. It’s not that you asked for the board and the schema, it’s the ‘story’ line which implies either, I’m lying, or I’m too retarded to do simple single digit integer math. If this was the only case, I wouldn’t even mention it. An answer of just ‘post the files’ would have been less rude than what you wrote. Posted from anybody else, it wouldn’t mean anything more, but given as a whole with all of your other posts and how they are laced with stuff like this, it gets too much.
It’s not my intention to offend you, and I doubt that I did. It’s just every time I see one of your posts I cringe. You are no doubt very skilled, but the tone can be tough to read.
Anyway, after the first pass of the router at 1mil grid it did leave the pad and the pin unrouted that’s in the pic above. I don’t remember the original routing that much, but it looks generally the same except the routing tends to wander a bit due to the small grid. There’s still quite a few air wires that have pads right beside each other with nothing in between. I’ve gotten rid of the polygons all together as it just makes it confusing looking at it, and it’s one more issue it could be.
I’ve actually got a fever since I posted last. I’ve started off the second run and I’ll check it in the morning.
TheDirty:
I’ve worked with a lot of old hardcore programmers that seem to be like this. It’s not that you asked for the board and the schema, it’s the ‘story’ line which implies either, I’m lying, or I’m too retarded to do simple single digit integer math.
Really?
Was my request that offensive to you that it’s now the
main focus of your posts? I’m wondering why you haven’t
taken this to PM if it bothers you that much?
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar; here’s my post that
set you off:
Bigglez:
Post the *.SCH and *.BRD files that this screen shot shows.I suspect there is something else to your story.
FWIW, I have no opinion about your, your history,
or your skills (with this project or otherwise).
If you want others here to spend their time on your
project for the sake of helping you, why are you
picking a fight?
TheDirty:
If this was the only case, I wouldn’t even mention it. An answer of just ‘post the files’ would have been less rude than what you wrote. Posted from anybody else, it wouldn’t mean anything more, but given as a whole with all of your other posts and how they are laced with stuff like this, it gets too much.
So this now a reprimand of Bigglez prior posts, too?
You do have the option to ignore my posts.
TheDirty:
You are no doubt very skilled, but the tone can be tough to read.
Not especially skilled, just willing to wade through the posts
a few times, and try to guess at what they are trying to do.
On any forum about 2/3rds of the challenge is decoding
what the OP was really trying to ask. This requires
questioning everything presented, and where possible examining
their work in progress.
Many posts are complex, and to answer them requires
quite a lot of effort from anyone willing to help.
Well, I’m really quite sick. I have run these through twice and I got a little more tracing the second time, Maybe if I kept it up, it would fill in the obvious traces, but I’m just going to go back to bed.
Here’s the board and schema if anyone wants to check it out. The pad in the original post still has not been connected, and there’s two resistors by the RJ45 jack that are also unrouted, even through they are right beside the components they should be routed to.
http://www.higginstribe.com/temp/autoroute-test/
Please, don’t actually route the board. I’ve already routed this board and I don’t actually need it routed. I just took an older project and ripped everything up for this test.
The Eagle autorouter is rubbish, as has already been stated. If you really need an autorouter you should buy Electra, there is an Eagle version. I use the version supplied with Pulsonix, it’s excellent.
It’s not worth using an autorouter on a simple board like that, routing it manually won’t take long. BTW, your power and ground tracks should be much wider.
Leon
leon_heller:
It’s not worth using an autorouter on a simple board like that, routing it manually won’t take long. BTW, your power and ground tracks should be much wider.Leon
TheDirty:
Please, don’t actually route the board. I’ve already routed this board and I don’t actually need it routed. I just took an older project and ripped everything up for this test.
Again. I’ve already routed this board, this is just an experiment where I ripped everything up to reproduce the issue where the auto router will not complete a route. People said that it will route everything that’s possible, when it’s my experience it will not.
This project was done a while ago.
http://www.higginstribe.com/z8e/2009022 … cb-001.jpg
http://www.higginstribe.com/z8e/2009022 … cb-002.jpg
Unfortunately the alternate routing I did for the board to be submitted to BatchPCB I will have to scrap, since the chip on it has 0.4mm leads, which won’t work with their 8mil minimum.
Are you trying to autoroute completely unrouted board?
felis:
Are you trying to autoroute completely unrouted board?
TheDirty:
Again. I’ve already routed this board, this is just an experiment where I ripped everything up to reproduce the issue where the auto router will not complete a route. People said that it will route everything that’s possible, when it’s my experience it will not.
