Was thinking about getting one or two AVR32s to have a bash at them but I’m concerned about the costs.
The units seem to only be about £5 but the programmers like the AVR ONE are around £200-400.
Just some questions…
For the love of god why are they so expensive?
Are there other options to program them?
Thanks :roll:
Saw this on Ebay. Seems to be what you’re after:
All AVR32s ship with a USB DFU firmware programmed on it, so you can use it from Atmel FLIP or the dfu-programmer open source version. You don’t gain debug, and need to mash a button on boot (or set a register and reset), but its very simple to use. Even works in AVR32 Studio.
I’m always vary on the JTAGICEmk2 clones. If they work, they only work today, and not tomorrow. Hunt around for the appropiate JTAGICEmk2 if you need a full debugger - its cheaper than the AVR One.
Hmm, I want it to work with AVR studio but I can’t pay that much ha.
Do the clones still work in with avr studio?
Thanks
You can’t program an AVR32 device in AVR Studio.
You need AVR32 Studio. You can program the device very easily with no extra hardware using its internal USB DFU, which comes on every device.
I’m thinking about getting a few of the AVR32s as well and wondering if needing a programmer like the JTAGICE is really that big of deal. The only thing you lose from not having one is a full debugger and the ability to overwrite/erase the bootloader right?
theatrus:
You can’t program an AVR32 device in AVR Studio.You need AVR32 Studio. You can program the device very easily with no extra hardware using its internal USB DFU, which comes on every device.
How do you connect it to your computer then? Do you just solder the 2 data wires of a usb cable on?
Roughly yes. You will if course need to follow the datasheet in regards to power, decoupling and connecting the 3.3v and 1.8v rails.
Okay, I might grab one and a breakout board.
Would you know the best option for this? I’ve seen sockets but they’re like £200.
Thanks for the help.
Thats quite a bit for a socket. Do you mean a breakout board so you can through it on a bread board? Something like this,
Topher:
Thats quite a bit for a socket. Do you mean a breakout board so you can through it on a bread board? Something like this,
Oh I think I was on about QFN is it? Or something similar… anything thats not DIP or SOIC I take little notice of as I don’t have the skill or tools to solder them ha.
Thanks for the link, I think I’ll order some.
I’ve been using this clone JTAGvIceMkII for 6 months. It works as well as the Atmel unit (we have several of both). AVR32 Studio will update the firmware just like the Atmel unit.
I’ve only used it on AVR32 UC3A parts and XMega parts.
http://enshop.avrvi.com/jtagicemkiiclone.html
A great deal for a development board is one of the Atmel eval kits
ATEVK1100, ATEVK1101 etc
Get 'em at Digikey
Just some questions,
are these the real deal? Seem to cheap…
http://gb.mouser.com/Search/ProductDeta … -ATAVRISP2
http://gb.mouser.com/Search/ProductDeta … NE-TESTKIT
Also, I don’t see any AVR32s in the PLCC package only xQFP or is that just another word for it? They look very similar.
Thanks
The ATAVRISP2 only supports the 8-bit AVRs. It’s only a programmer, not a debugger.
The AVRONE! actually costs about 20x as much as the Mouser price, it must be a mistake. It does support the AVR32, as well as the 8-bit devices.
Leon
PLCC has a pin spacing of 1.27mm vs 0.5mm for TQFP. They are not compatible.
The AVRISP is real, but cannot program AVR32s, only regular AVRs. The AVRONE is likely an accessory board - the real unit is about $700USD. You can however use the AVRJTAGmk2 ($300USD), and only lose trace capability.
As stated before, unless you need debug, the DFU bootloader lets you program the devices using Atmel’s FLIP software. No extra hardware needed. I am developing a small DIP-module containing the AVR32 UC3B1256 which uses the DFU functionality via two buttons (reset and DFU), like the AVR USBKEY.
My understanding from an avrfreaks post is that the ATAVRONE-TESTKIT is a loopback test harness for the AVRONE to verify operation.alexgeek:
Just some questions,are these the real deal? Seem to cheap…
Hi,I have used a AVR 32 Programmer AVR JTAG ICE MKII clone! It’s all the same as Atmel JTAG ICE MKII in using way.It works well wtih AVR32 ,ATxMega ,This is the link:
AVR JTAG ICE MKII clone:http://enshop.avrvi.com/jtagicemkiiclone.html
AVR JTAG ICE MKII CN:http://enshop.avrvi.com/avrjtagicemkiicn.html
I’ve been using the JTAG ICE MKII clone from avrvi for over 6 months daily in my job. It appears to be identical to the Atmel unit. AVR32 Studio even downloads new firmware to it. I’ve only used it on the AVR32 UC3A1512 and the ATMega169, so I can’t vouch for its use o nany other Atmel parts. We have both the Atmel and AVRVI units and have not discovered any problems withe AVRVI units.