First Person Video on RC Planes?`

Hi guys,

Are there any clever chaps on here who have built there own FPV setup, with gyro (head movement sensor), video transmitter, reciever and goggles? I don’t know much about electronics, but was wondering if there was a ‘package’ I could buy to enable this on my aircraft.

Something like this, but… under $500?

http://www.rangevideo.com/index.php?mai … cts_id=131

Thanks.

Coming from someone who has been in FPV for a long time now and tried out most of the stuff, if $500 is too much then FPV probably isn’t your thing.

Granted, if you want there are cheaper ways of going about it, but if you want all the gadgets and gizmos from the start (like head trackers) then you are looking at $$.

Do you fly normal RC already? If not then I strongly suggest you get something like an EasyStar to learn to fly normal RC on first.

There are things like cheap $20 cameras on eBay and low res video goggles that can make your setup cheaper, but honestly this is an expensive hobby :frowning:

Thanks Gussy.

I fly helis and planes, and I am busy selling my helicopter (because of the FPV bug, and prefering fixed wing now…), which will easily cover the RangeVideo setup, without OSD and all that. I fly planes as well… not an EasyStar though. I’m ordering one now to get the feel for it.

I was just wondering if someone would say, ‘No, don’t get the RangeView… Buy this camera, and a tx/rx from here… and that will save you $100, plus have a better range…’ or something.

If I have to pay the $500, so be it. I was just putting out feelers and looking for input. What FPV system are you using? Custom built?

Also, as for the aircraft… cularis or easystar? Is the FPV stuff not pretty heavy - meaning maybe a cularis would be a better FPV aircraft? It seems the VAST majority are flying FPV on the easystar.

Would love to hear more about your setp.

Ta.

No worries, I didn’t mean for that last post to sound harsh, but lots of people are trying to get into FPV who have no more experneice with RC than watching it on youtube, if you get what I mean.

Ok well first off, do not buy one of those expensive packs with “everything you need”, it’s a much better choice to start from scratch and build your own setup the way you want it.

Second thing, consider not getting the easy star. This is a big call for me to make, I know, probably more than 40% of the FPV planes out there are are easystars, but honestly they are horrible things to fly. With the rudder only setup they don’t fly with very much authority. You want something that goes where you want when you want. The Cularis is better, but those a quite big. Personally the two setups I use and recommend to people are a Funjet for low, fast flying) and an Easyglider for a more relaxed “floaty” flying.

As far as setups go, there are loads of choices, one of the biggest is the video transmission frequency you use. There are 3 main ones to choose from, 900MHz, 1.3GHz and 2.4GHz. Now it really depends on what radio you use, if you have a 2.4GHz radio you don’t want to use 2.4GHz video. I don’t really recommend 2.4GHz as that frequency is quite crowded these days, anything form WiFi routers to Bluetooth will give you interference.

Once you have chosen a radio frequency then you just need to pick a decent camera and some goggles. The goggles are the expensive bit.

I could go into depth about all these things if you like, but you really should check out or even post here: http://www.rcgroups.com/video-piloting-fpv-rpv-469/

I will say this though. One of the biggest mistakes people make getting into FPV is they want the biggest most longest range setup they can get. Think to yourself though, do you really want to fly a plane 20 miles away? That’s quite some distance.

That FPV forum I linked to above can be a bit harsh/overwhelming so I don’t mind it if you want to just keep discussing it in this thread.

Let me know what frequency radio you use and if you want a close in, fast FPV setup, or a more further out, slower setup and I can start to advise you on what you will need.

Thanks for that!

I am flying my planes and helis with a DX7, and plan on using an AR7000 (from a sold heli) on the aircraft. I think I’ll need most of the channels anway. I was/am looking at the EasyStar at the moment, but know what you mean. I hear a modification to the rudder (i.e. Make it much bigger) may give quite a lot of extra authority in flight, but hey, if there’s a better stock plane, then that sounds like a plan.

The Cularis is a nice docile looking flying machine, but yes - big. I’m hoping I can take my plane with me on drive-away holidays. So, yeah, the Cularis would make that a bit tough.

I’ll take a look at the easy glider… Being in Australia, makes supply of aircraft and bits a bit tougher, but will hunt about.

My goal is the whole pan & tilt, ability to record flights, and have the control controlled via head movements. But I have no issue building it up slowly, and starting off by putting ghr goggles on once she’s high and safe. I hear it’s not as easy as it looks…

Just saw a video of the easy glider. Looks nice and slow. I’m flying a GWS Slow Stick and a GWS Tiger Moth at the moment - I’m a fan of the slow scale type flight, so the Easy Glider does seem to fit that bracket. And with 1.8M wingspan - it’s also quite big… (Wonder if the wings come apart…)

Ad for range, maybe not 20 miles… :), but I’d like to maybe get close to 1,000 meters? What is the benefits/differences between 900mhz and 1.3Ghz? Clarrity? Price maybe?

I agree with the over use of 2.4… and with my Tx… I’d prefer not to cause any issues, and picture loss…

Thanks again, going to check that link.

Hey hey, you never mentioned you were in Australia!!! That changes… well not much, but still. Where about? I’m in Melbourne.

DX7 is fine, that is what I use. AR700 is a very good RX for FPV too.

For transportability (a word?) you want something like a flying wing or a funjet, both a pretty small. The easyglider is like a small cularis, the wings come off, but still its a little bulky. Then again it depends how and what you are traveling in.

If you have a solid setup it is easy to fly… at least I think so. You don’t loose orientation when you are looking from the planes POV.

The easyglider is a nice setup, and not too expensive either, especially the way I set mine up. All up (excluding the airframe+rx+lipos) it was under $100 for servos, esc, brushless motor.

1km is doable in good conditions with a DX7.

I use a 900MHz setup but would like to move to 1.3GHz but that is only so I can do tricky things with 900MHz modems.

I would say go with 900MHz as its more available, and longest range.

I get most of my gear from RV: http://www.rangevideo.com/index.php?mai … Path=35_21

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Aw, damn photos aren’t showing. Is it my broswer?

My location is Brisbane… But originally from South Africa, and 7 years in Scotland before coming here 18 months back… :slight_smile:

Some of my early action - note, I HAVE improved… a bit. :slight_smile:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Cralis1

Checking the sites you mentioned…

With regards the RangeVideo site - can you list the items I require, so I can build up a ‘shopping list’? Which camera etc…

It’s on your end, they are working for me.

Ok well for a minimum FPV setup you are going to want something like the following:

Video TX: http://www.rangevideo.com/index.php?mai … ucts_id=24

Video RX: http://www.rangevideo.com/index.php?mai … ucts_id=25

Goggles: http://www.rangevideo.com/index.php?mai … ucts_id=23

Camera: http://www.rangevideo.com/index.php?mai … cts_id=158

Now that is more than the $500 kit $525 actually, but that is mainly because of the camera which is considered one of the top ones.

A few people are using [this camera with pretty good results. Only $20 to which is nice. Get that instead and it brings your setup down to $395!!

Some other FPV stores to look at:

http://hobbywireless.com/

http://www.nghobbies.com/

Oh I should probably tell you now to, as far as I know, the current head tracking devices (like the “TrackR2”) do not work with the DX7… Pan and tilt is overrated to me, but lots of people like it.

Oh and your slowstick would be a prefect platform if you didn’t want to setup a whole new plane for a while.

Check this out: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1097185](http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Panasonic-GP-CX161-Color-Mini-Board-Camera-2-9-Lens_W0QQitemZ250476698416QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a51931b30&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14)

Thanks for that!

Been looking at the forums and links. There seems to be a very good, 500 line Sony 3cm by 3cm camera for around US$70… I can’t recall the model, but it seems to get pretty good reviews, and they rekon it’s comparible to a DVD quality image. Mmm…

I’m pretty down about the DX7 issue though. I was hoping to start off with a static mount, and then upgrade to pan and tilt. The benefit would be ‘sale0ability to my wife’. I’ve told her that if I buy it, she could wear the goggle sometimes, and I can fly like normal RC… and she can look about. That would be pretty amazing, and she’s pretty keen!

So - options. Replace the DX7 with a different 2.4Ghz system? (I’d like to stay with 2.4 - as my other aircraft all run AR7000s and AR6100s. Is there no module you can get to add to the aircraft? Another ‘pan and tilt’ Tx and another Rx on the aircraft?

How did you manage to get the radio equipment for $100? I really like the look and flight charactoristics of the Easy Glider. What’s the difference between the EasyGlider and the Easy Glider Pro? And replacement part availability? Seems to Pro is the newer version - But around $50 more.

The extra small costs not included would be: Lipo? (Maybe a 3S 1000mah - I belive that gives you around 50 minutes) Cables? Lens?

I’m building a spreadsheet of parts - and taken your advice and focusing on the 900Mhz goodies. What is the difference between 900 and 1.3? Image quality the same - just slightly longer range on 900? The thing is, it’s just the Rx and Tx that make the system 900mhz, right? So, if the day came that I wanted to go 1.3 - it’s a case of replacing just the Rx and Tx - not the MOST expensive parts in the whole system…

These Rvision-D high resolution goggles. Are their better, equal or worse alternatives? And can the video be recorded pretty easily to an SD card or something, somehow?

Also - did you source your aircraft locally? It seems it’s better to buy from the US - but postage can make you weap a bit. :slight_smile:

PS: Images are cached on your machine. RCGROUPS forbids you from linking images on their servers to another forums… So, they don’t display if you haven’t viewed them already. Copying and pasting the link to a new browser window works though.

gussy:
Hey hey, you never mentioned you were in Australia!!! That changes… well not much, but still.

It does change one thing, In some nations (Like USA) 1.3ghz is reserved for “AERONAUTICAL RADIONAVIGATION” according to my FCC frequency allocation chart. I assume in Australia this isn’t a problem?

Thanks for this thread by the way. I had always assumed that FPV equipment was fabulously expensive. Those links almost make it seem affordable!

AndyL:
I assume in Australia this isn’t a problem?

Not sure - I’ll look into it.

I agree about the costs - but … I fear it’s all going to add up, and we’ll have around a grand of electronics up there. Time to look into the availability of an emergency parachute! :slight_smile:

Gussy - I have a suppier who can get me an Easy Glider PRO for $120… or the Easy Glider for $100. He says the only difference is that the PRO comes with a Brushless mount… Which, I guess is the way to go for the extra weight and wind resistance offered by FPV?

Edit: Answered one of my questions.

Differences between EasyGlider Pro and Easy Glider Electric:

  1. New fuselage with bigger battery compartment

  2. New canopy

  3. Fuselage optimized for BL direct drive

  4. Servo location further forward and wider apart

  5. Permanent extensions to aileron servo (= less fiddly )

  6. Electric and Glider version in one kit

  7. Design now red/silver instead of blue/silver

  8. Tow hook included

  9. Two Drive Sets available

  10. Easy Glider Electric no longer produced

I’m trying to build up a list of items for the Easy Glider, and this is what I have at the moment.

Can be found in more details at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthre … st12912980

Rx: AR7000

ESC: 40A Turnigy (https://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/sto … oduct=2165)

Motor: 1000kv Turnigy Brushless (https://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/sto … :_AXi_2820)

Servos: HS55s x 4

Seem OK? Not sure if the motor is what I need - and if the ESC matches it… Worried about the 40A/45A mismatch…

Cralis:
Thanks for that!

Been looking at the forums and links. There seems to be a very good, 500 line Sony 3cm by 3cm camera for around US$70… I can’t recall the model, but it seems to get pretty good reviews, and they rekon it’s comparible to a DVD quality image. Mmm…

None of these cameras will be DVD quality, post up that one you are talking about, chances are I will know a bit about it. There isn't too many different cameras in use for FPV.

Cralis:
I’m pretty down about the DX7 issue though. I was hoping to start off with a static mount, and then upgrade to pan and tilt. The benefit would be ‘sale0ability to my wife’. I’ve told her that if I buy it, she could wear the goggle sometimes, and I can fly like normal RC… and she can look about. That would be pretty amazing, and she’s pretty keen!

So - options. Replace the DX7 with a different 2.4Ghz system? (I’d like to stay with 2.4 - as my other aircraft all run AR7000s and AR6100s. Is there no module you can get to add to the aircraft? Another ‘pan and tilt’ Tx and another Rx on the aircraft?

It's complicated... (Isn't it always?)

The problem comes from the DX7 not mapping the the aux channels to the trainer port, where the head tracker (HT) normally injects its data. I know guys who are using the DX7 as “master” TX and using another radio linked to that as the actual controller, with the HT injecting into the slave. I have never really bothered with HT’s so I would have to look into it a bit more to know what your options are.

Cralis:
How did you manage to get the radio equipment for $100? I really like the look and flight charactoristics of the Easy Glider. What’s the difference between the EasyGlider and the Easy Glider Pro? And replacement part availability? Seems to Pro is the newer version - But around $50 more.

Radio gear? Difference is the Pro is the new version that has brushless mounts, don't even think of getting the old one. If by radio gear you mean the motor+esc I will post some links further down.

Cralis:
The extra small costs not included would be: Lipo? (Maybe a 3S 1000mah - I belive that gives you around 50 minutes) Cables? Lens?

1000mah is WAY to small. I run a 2400mAH in my EagyGlider but am thinking of upgrading to a 3600mah or thereabouts.

Cralis:
I’m building a spreadsheet of parts - and taken your advice and focusing on the 900Mhz goodies. What is the difference between 900 and 1.3? Image quality the same - just slightly longer range on 900? The thing is, it’s just the Rx and Tx that make the system 900mhz, right? So, if the day came that I wanted to go 1.3 - it’s a case of replacing just the Rx and Tx - not the MOST expensive parts in the whole system…

Yes it's just the TX and RX that are to do with the frequency. The most expensive part is the goggles.

Cralis:
These Rvision-D high resolution goggles. Are their better, equal or worse alternatives? And can the video be recorded pretty easily to an SD card or something, somehow?

They are the best without getting stupid. I own them as well as some Fatsharks. I like both but the fatsharks look more cool. They are more $$$ though. Then there is the Headplay ones, which are something stupid like $500... They are (apparently) the best, but you pay for it.

Cralis:
Also - did you source your aircraft locally? It seems it’s better to buy from the US - but postage can make you weap a bit. :slight_smile:

I was impatitent when I got my EZGlider, I got it from the North Coast for $150 posted... Retail was only $120 though, a very good price.

AndyL:
It does change one thing, In some nations (Like USA) 1.3ghz is reserved for “AERONAUTICAL RADIONAVIGATION” according to my FCC frequency allocation chart. I assume in Australia this isn’t a problem?

It is not quite as clear cut as that, but I **am not** going to go into that here.

Cralis:
Not sure - I’ll look into it.

I agree about the costs - but … I fear it’s all going to add up, and we’ll have around a grand of electronics up there. Time to look into the availability of an emergency parachute! :slight_smile:

Don't bother looking into it, you won't find any answers, trust me. PM me if you are really interested though. It's a whole new rant/thread in itself.

You shouldn’t have a grands worth of gear airborne, at most you have a $250 airplane, just like any other RC airplane, then you have $200 worth of video gear on it. The big cost is goggles really.

Cralis:
Gussy - I have a suppier who can get me an Easy Glider PRO for $120… or the Easy Glider for $100. He says the only difference is that the PRO comes with a Brushless mount… Which, I guess is the way to go for the extra weight and wind resistance offered by FPV?

Edit: Answered one of my questions.

Differences between EasyGlider Pro and Easy Glider Electric:

(snip)

As I said above, go for the $120 one. MPX stuff is excellent value.

Cralis:
I’m trying to build up a list of items for the Easy Glider, and this is what I have at the moment.(snip)

Ok this is what you want. The best setup.

Ditch those HS55 servos, unless you have them laying around. The HXT900’s are just as good, if not better, and $3.

ESC: [Turnigy Plush 40A ESC

Outrunner: [TGY AerodriveXp SK Series 35-30 1100Kv / 345w

Aileron Servos: 2 x [HXT900 9g

Elevator + Rudder Servos: 2 x [Hextronik MG-14 14g

LiPo: 2350mAh 3S (20-25C)

Prop: [TGS 11x8F Precision Folding propeller

Spinner: [Folding Prop Spinner 45mm / 4.0mm shaft

There are plenty of options for LiPo’s, I am running [these at the moment, but thinking of upgrading to something bigger soon. They will get you going though if you don’t want to make a decision. Great value too at $19, grab a few.

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Thanks Gussy!

Amazing info there, and I can see you’re not overly joyed at the 1.3Ghz and radio licencing story. I might PM you for more info. Don’t want my plane shot down or something. :oops:

OK - I can’t find the link for the ‘DVD quality Camera’, but will hunt it down. Salesman talk, I’m sure.

I just, 5 minutes ago, sold my Trex500 (heli) with servos, gyro etc… and got $850. So that goes 100% towards my FPV. Pretty happy, as my wife has given the nod as well, saying I can do what I want. Now - how should I be reading that??? :roll:

OK, let me hunt down that camera stuff, and get back to you…

Problem is, the supplier only gets the aircraft in late September, or early October.

Have you had much dealing with the EagleTree data logger? I have a V3 on my helicopter, which I am keeping, and might use on the Easy Glider. I have http://www.eagletreesystems.com/MicroPower/micro.htm. Good for logging electrical stuff, but… I went to their site, and noticed this: http://www.eagletreesystems.com/OSD/OSD-Pro.htm together with the GPS expender, altimeter… Looks like I’m a part of the way to OSD… but … would this work with the video Tx that we’re looking at from RangeVideo?

Also, going to add all those goodies from HobbyCity to a ‘WishList’ for now, and closer to the plane order, I’ll get all that stuff sent.

The servos - I don’t know much about electrics, but was told that the HTX ones from HobbyCity draw a lot more current than the HS55s. Know anything about that? I recently built a GWS Tiger Moth, and crashed it on maiden. It had thse $3 servos … and now I’m worried the servos caused a blackout on the Rx…

See the crash here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfHot8FhP1Y

Do you have any opinions on that? It’s possible I stuffed up, but… I’m sure I was trying to save the plane in the crash, but I don’t see the movements in it’s final descent… Rx failure? Not sure… but now I’m worried it’s the $3 servos overloading the Rx… or the BEC or something, and the voltage drops to the Rx - causing it to resent inflight.

Again, thanks for mentoring me here - looks like there are a few people following the thread - and I found a link to the thread on Google already. :slight_smile:

Ah, another question - the 1000mah pack I was talking about was going to be dedicated to the video stuff… not to the aircraft power and radio stuff. Do you have just one pack in the a/c, powering both the plane, and the video?

I have a few Kong Power 2200mah 3S packs I was hoping to use…

What sort of flight times you getting off the 2350mah Rhinos (with video)?

Cralis:
Thanks Gussy!

Amazing info there, and I can see you’re not overly joyed at the 1.3Ghz and radio licencing story. I might PM you for more info. Don’t want my plane shot down or something. :oops:

It's not that. It's more a "whats legal, whats not" issue. Like I said though, not here.

Cralis:
OK - I can’t find the link for the ‘DVD quality Camera’, but will hunt it down. Salesman talk, I’m sure.

I just, 5 minutes ago, sold my Trex500 (heli) with servos, gyro etc… and got $850. So that goes 100% towards my FPV. Pretty happy, as my wife has given the nod as well, saying I can do what I want. Now - how should I be reading that??? :roll:

OK, let me hunt down that camera stuff, and get back to you…

Problem is, the supplier only gets the aircraft in late September, or early October.

I would read that as "spend twice what you made on the heli honey" :D

Ahh gool old Multiplex stuff. It comes in waves here in Aus, there will be stock everywhere for 2 months then no stock for another 5 months.

Best bet is to just ring around a few hobby shops, thats how I got mine from the GC. Otherwise you could shell out to get it from tower hobbies.

Cralis:
Have you had much dealing with the EagleTree data logger? I have a V3 on my helicopter, which I am keeping, and might use on the Easy Glider. I have http://www.eagletreesystems.com/MicroPower/micro.htm. Good for logging electrical stuff, but… I went to their site, and noticed this: http://www.eagletreesystems.com/OSD/OSD-Pro.htm together with the GPS expender, altimeter… Looks like I’m a part of the way to OSD… but … would this work with the video Tx that we’re looking at from RangeVideo?

In the end it's all just normal PAL/NTSC video signals, so any OSD will work with any camera and and any TX/RX.

If you already have the micrologger it’s a no brainer, get the osd pro or the other osd they make (less features).

Cralis:
Also, going to add all those goodies from HobbyCity to a ‘WishList’ for now, and closer to the plane order, I’ll get all that stuff sent.

Not sure if you have got stuff from HC before, but be warned that if you make an order with something that's not in stock, you could be in for a wait.

Cralis:
The servos - I don’t know much about electrics, but was told that the HTX ones from HobbyCity draw a lot more current than the HS55s. Know anything about that? I recently built a GWS Tiger Moth, and crashed it on maiden. It had thse $3 servos … and now I’m worried the servos caused a blackout on the Rx…

See the crash here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfHot8FhP1Y

Do you have any opinions on that? It’s possible I stuffed up, but… I’m sure I was trying to save the plane in the crash, but I don’t see the movements in it’s final descent… Rx failure? Not sure… but now I’m worried it’s the $3 servos overloading the Rx… or the BEC or something, and the voltage drops to the Rx - causing it to resent inflight.

That's harsh, never a nice thing to happen :(

It’s up to you mate, but I use those HXT900’s in all of my planes (nearly 20+) and never have any issues…

It didn’t look like pilot error to me, looked like a control surface getting stuck maybe. Those HXT900’s wouldn’t have been drawing any current at all on that slow plane in the slow turns. I run them on a funjet that goes at 150kph+ without issues.

Cralis:
Again, thanks for mentoring me here - looks like there are a few people following the thread - and I found a link to the thread on Google already. :slight_smile:

No problems mate! Glad I can help. I just wish someone had of done the same to me when I got into it so I didn't waste money on the wrong FPV gear.

Cralis:
Ah, another question - the 1000mah pack I was talking about was going to be dedicated to the video stuff… not to the aircraft power and radio stuff. Do you have just one pack in the a/c, powering both the plane, and the video?

I have a few Kong Power 2200mah 3S packs I was hoping to use…

What sort of flight times you getting off the 2350mah Rhinos (with video)?

I just run a single pack with a "Dimension Engineering Anyvolt Micro" set to 13V output. I have never run my packs out but I would guess at 30+ minutes with light throttle use. the easyglider doesn't need much to stay up.

Those kong packs should be ok, as long as they are at least 20C.

Thanks again. (How do you do multi quote replies?!)

OK, been looking about… found the aircraft for $112 from a Melbourne supplier. I’ve emailed them to see if they have stock, and the postage cost to Brisbane… Found another Aussie shop doing it for $119. Mailed them too… So, maybe sooner rather than later.

The motor and ESC combo you’re using. Enough power to drag around some video Tx’s and cameras? Damn fine price - how does HobbyCity do it?? :slight_smile: Yeah, I’ve ordered from them before. Ordered a 6S Zippy 3300mah pack for my heli, and it took 2 months… Stock looks OK on the stuff you sent though.

Maybe put the order in for the Video Rx, Tx and goggles so long as well. And then maybe get that $20 camera. Which cam do you use? Got any video of your stuff?

I just copy the [ quote = name ] [ / quote ] tags about :wink:

Chances are the Melbourne supplier won’t have them, I rang around all the shops here a month back and they didn’t have any, there hasn’t been a MPX shipment since then either.

More than enough power, very efficient too with that motor, very nice motor, Just do up the grub screws on it, I had the prop shaft come out in flight :slight_smile:

Rangevideo are pretty good, usually under a week shipping.

I use cameras that I sourced out of china myself, they are known as “480 OSD Cameras” on some sites, they have buttons on the back which lets you set the settings, they are nice but need a lot of tweaking.

Don’t have much video of my stuff up at all. Only this video of my first ever FPV flight I put up a while back, very crappy recording, and this another one flown from an easystar with a HD camera on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BCLom0SwZQ

http://vimeo.com/2866909

Both are with an easystar, on the HD one you can see how it wags from side to side, the reason why I hate the ES*.

With regards the yawwing on turns… the wagging from left to right - has this easystar got ailerons? Did you modify it to have ailerons? I ask, because I have done most of my PPL licence, and know that this soft of effect LOOKS like ‘Adverse Aileron Yaw’, caused by the drag increase on the wing with the aileron in the down position ‘yawwing’ the aircraft in the opposite direction of the attempted turn for a moment. This is resolved with correct rudder input - so, in real life, you’re only inputting rudder (with your foot) when the ailerons are deflected. As soon as you stop the aileron input, you remove rudder input.

I had a debate once with a chap who told me that using a rudder on an aileron R/C plane isn’t required, because you don’t notice the adverse yaw from the ground - However, I guess with FPV, it’s a lot more noticable…

Of course - if you haven’t added ailerons - this is a pointless point. :slight_smile:

A quick question about the easy glider. Some guy told me you need a hell of a lot of ‘runway’ for the landing of these things, because they tend to glide a long way. Is this correct? Do they have spoilers to slow down and descend quickly on finals?

Just checked my bank, and the chap that bought my chopper HAS paid - so it’s go, go, go! Buy, buy, buy!!! :slight_smile: Find stock, stock, stock. :frowning: