uC based reflow oven controller

So would you advise against installing this new controller into the oven itself, say an infrawave oven? Or is that the purpose of the higher Tg PCB’s?

I would really like to be able to put together an all in one setup, so I can just plug in the oven like normal, then hook up a laptop to set the profile. Set and forget. :smiley:

I just looked at your graphs, reflowing a whole board in under 4 minutes?! I need to get onto this oven stuff, hand soldering is too slow!

Let me know when these are available (or if I can get one now and update it when the software is finished) :wink:

these high Tg pcb’s are good upto 170 deg Celsius and are more durable.

the components are good upto 85 deg celsius including the term blocks…

so the overall rating is 85 deg celsius continuous :slight_smile:

nope, dont mount it in the oven!! on the side would work however as it can stand the heat that will be xferred.

we are redoing all the software, but these will be availabel for sale hopefully this weekend.

then the software will be available as an update int he future…

easy updating with ICSP or using the HID bootloader.

current firmware:

both of these use an optimized PID algorithm

-fast switching at 2.5 mS

-5 mS switching

future firmware:

-classical PID algorithm for really slow systems.

what you see above is our current windows software which works very well… but yes we are redoing that also and adding tons of features.

tnx

-drex

and the oven i do recommend in the US is the black and decker infrawave (thats what you see above).

for europe you have less IR options, but there is a 600 watt euro pizza oven available that is detailed in this thread and on our site also…

if you cant do IR, then id recommend the biggest wattage conventional oven possible.

I didn’t mean mounting it actually in the oven, that’s just crazy :stuck_out_tongue:

I meant mounting it inside where the normal controls/nobs for the oven are.

Looking forward to when these are available.

hahahahahah yah that would be crazy :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

yes, if you take off the circuit board standoffs, and we will have the option to order with no terminal blocks, so it will make for a very slimline solution :slight_smile:

also options to delete headers and DC power jack.

so it can be as slimline as u want it to be (that would be as tall as the mini USB jack with all those things deleted)

its a very flexible solution for your custom application.

yah it will work in there no worries, as long as u dont exceed the 85 deg celsius rating of the semiconductors.

i wish microchip had an industrial temp rating for this MCU but they dont!!!

i wasnt able to get Doutzen or any Victoria secrets models to pose.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

maybe next time??

hahahha

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the techFX reflow 3.0 is available in our store now!!!

depending on initial sales, there could be upto a 5 day lead time when stock gets low.

stop on by and buy one now!!

http://www.thesiliconhorizon.com

Awesome. Looks great. Just a shame its a PIC :stuck_out_tongue:

I an going to check out the stores tomorrow and see if any have the B&D Infrawave ovens, I already have a source for paste.

hehehe :slight_smile: nah i wont knock atmel, they have some nice things…

we have a big pic codebase so we stick with em.

it is 12 bit ADC btw, which is one of the reasons people may choose atmel in the 1st place??

So I’m trying to understand why you would use a cycle time of anything smaller than 8.33ms. Even if you can get the SSR to turn on at a random time (and many SSRs will), it will not turn off until it hits the zero crossing, which occurs every 8.33ms.

I would think the best way to do this would be to phase control the SSR, by locking to the line frequency so that you can turn the SSR on at a know time relative to the next zero crossing. This would give you the best duty cycle control possible, but you still can’t do it faster than using a 8.33ms period (by any method).

Mike

depends on the SSR :slight_smile:

also there are other methods than an SSR, that is the suggested method.

ummm did you look at the graph?

doesnt get much better than that!!!

tnx

I agree that the result is excellent, but I don’t see any significant change between 2.5 and 5 ms periods, and my reasoning would explain it. In general, this process is fairly slow, so I can’t imagine that there would be much benefit, if any, to controlling faster than 120Hz, and it wouldn’t surprise me if an even slower control rate would work just as well.

Can you point me to an off the shelf SSR that can turn off at points other than the zero crossing? I agree that you can design one from scratch using IGBTs, or FETs, but most individuals will not do this.

BTW, Breville has a really nice counter top oven that I am considering using as a reflow oven. It uses IR heaters, has an output of 1800W, and has a convection fan, though it is larger than most (and expensive). But, it looks to be really solid, and could likely be insulated easily, which would allow for faster ramp rates.

Mike

when i zoom in on the graph (with the zoom tool in the software) you can see some small differences.)

the main difference is to allow for slower SSR’s that have zero cross and cant handle the 2.5 switch.

yes ive had a few customers that couldnt get their SSR to work with the 2.5 mS period.

so thats why the slow period.

however that value will be configurable in software in the new version of reflow tools 5.0 that will be coming out soon!!!

it should be pretty cool.

a major update and its just an upgrade.

tnx

-drex

k type thermos back in stock :slight_smile:

just got a new shipment of parts today… stop on by and get our new reflow 3.0 controller!!

:smiley: :smiley:

hmmm the views is upto like 62000 now

is it gonna overflow hahhahaha

corvette123:
hmmm the views is upto like 62000 now

is it gonna overflow hahhahaha

66 666 th view, and it didn’t blow up… :twisted:

hahaha so thats more than an int then huh

i wonder how high it can gooo…

its leveling out ~67000