Tsunami Wav Trigger - Synced Set Anomolies

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I have been attempting to create two four speaker zones with the Tsunami, but am running into some strange behavior with the Synced Set function…

I have checked the files, but they play back fine when using synced set on it own (i.e. 4 files play simultaneously each on output 1-4), so they are not the issue - the synced set works fine in this manner.

But when I add a 2nd zone that randomly plays mono files into output 5,6,7,8 and a different trigger event that plays mono files into outputs 1-8, the synced set does not play (all the other events do, though). I also tried removing the 2nd trigger event that plays into outputs 1-8, but that made no difference.

The configuration file looks like this:

#TSUM
#TRIG 01, 104, 0, 0, 14, 1, 4
#TRIG 02, 74, 0, 4, 4, 5, 10
#TRIG 03, 74, 0, 5, 4, 5, 10
#TRIG 04, 74, 0, 6, 4, 5, 10
#TRIG 05, 74, 0, 7, 4, 5, 10
#TRIG 06, 74, 0, 0, 4, 11, 26
#TRIG 07, 74, 0, 1, 4, 11, 26
#TRIG 08, 74, 0, 2, 4, 11, 26
#TRIG 09, 74, 0, 3, 4, 11, 26
#TRIG 10, 74, 0, 4, 4, 11, 26
#TRIG 11, 74, 0, 5, 4, 11, 26
#TRIG 12, 74, 0, 6, 4, 11, 26
#TRIG 13, 74, 0, 7, 4, 11, 26

Is synced set an all or nothing function? i.e. does it have to be the only trigger type being used? Alternately, is it possible to have more than 1 synced sets (for example, outputs 1-4 and a different set for outputs 3-8)?

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Synced set should not be all-or-nothing. Could be a bug. It may be a couple of days before I can investigate, but in the meantime a couple of questions that might help diagnose. Does the synced set trigger stop working just from having other triggers defined in the init file? When it stops working, does it do anything at all?

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Thanks so much for following up on this! It would be optimal if I could I could set up this installation (its a sound art piece) with four speakers synced set and the other four random…I want to find out before I look at alternative set-ups (there is still time)…

In answer to your question, the synced set does not play on the speakers (1-4) with the above configuration…however, if I do a configuration with only a synced set (i.e. #TRIG 01, 104, 0, 0, 14, 1, 4) the synced set plays fine (not going out of time).

The piece is designed to start playing as soon as turned on, so it (the synced set) never starts playing (in the config pasted above), though the other components play properly (I do hear the random files (Trig 6-14) playing on outputs 1-4, for example) - nor does it (the synced set) play if I removed Trig 6-13 from the configuration (so that nothing else is playing on outputs 1-4)

I hope this helps! Looking forward to the results of your testing.

Many thanks!

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If you’re in a position to be able to experiment easily and you don’t mind, a few more questions might speed things up. If you start with just the synced set with 4 tracks on trigger 1 (which works properly, right?), what’s the minimum addition that causes it to stop working. For example, if you simply add trigger 2 as a random selection from tracks 5 to 10, does that cause trigger 1 to stop working? What if you add just trigger 5 as a normal trigger? Trying to find the simplest addition that causes the synced set to stop working.

And my second question above was: when trigger 1 is “not working”, does it do anything at all?

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I was thinking of the same approach - unfortunately I probably won’t be able to test until the weekend…

As to your 2nd question, trigger 1 does not do anything at all - no sound (from the synced set) is heard on any output.

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Some updates on testing:

The blend of random and synced set (even out of different speakers) does not seem to work for the synced set (does not play) - for example:

#TSUM
#TRIG 01, 104, 0, 0, 14, 1, 4
#TRIG 02, 72, 0, 4, 4, 5, 10
#TRIG 03, 72, 0, 5, 4, 5, 10
#TRIG 04, 72, 0, 6, 4, 5, 10
#TRIG 05, 72, 0, 7, 4, 5, 10

This file was generated by the Robertsonics Configurator v2.20
for use with the Tsunami Mono firmware. It is only required if
you wish to over-ride default settings. You may add your own
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This test plays a synced set/random file mix:

Trig 1 - Synced set out of output 1-4
Trig 2 - Random files out of output 5-8

However, a mix of three synced sets (even with one overlapping the other outputs) does work:

#TSUM
#TRIG 01, 104, 0, 0, 14, 1, 4
#TRIG 02, 104, 0, 4, 14, 7, 10
#TRIG 03, 104, 0, 0, 14, 27, 34

This file was generated by the Robertsonics Configurator v2.20
for use with the Tsunami Mono firmware. It is only required if
you wish to over-ride default settings. You may add your own
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This configuration plays 3 overlapping synced sets:

Trig 1 - Play recordings A on Outputs 1-4
Trig 2 - Play recordings B on Outputs 5-8
Trig 3 - Play speech samples on Outputs 1-8

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